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31.08.2006, 19:17
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Leider muss ich jetzt sofort weg ...
Aber es sieht wieder besser aus.
Der Verzicht auf den Zero-Nachsatz bringt nämlich DOCH eine wesentliche Verbesserung!
Mit einem Wartecoup nach Zero und einer kleinen, ganz einfachen Intermittenz-Bremse bin ich jetzt auf einer Umsatzrendite nach 300 Partien von –0,60% (vorher –2,00%), was ich sehr erstaunlich finde.
Später oder morgen mehr ...
 webpirat
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31.08.2006, 19:42
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@all
Also so ziemlich das Ergebnis, daß wir doch eigentlich auch erwartet haben. Wie sollte es auch anders aussehen?
Solange es nicht gelingt, Verlustsätze zu reduzieren, kommt es eben immer wieder zu den bekannten Minuswerten.
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01.09.2006, 16:10
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Gestern waren meine Beiträge zu diesem Thema etwas chaotisch.
Das lag hauptsächlich daran, dass ich in meinem Excel-Tool bei "Nachsatz nach Zero" einen Kopierfehler drin hatte, der die Ergebnisse verfälscht hat.
Jetzt ist alles sauber und basiert auf 600 Partien à 100 Coups (von denen aber nicht alle gesetzt werden).
Ich kann mit der Auswertung nachweisen, dass das Nachsetzen nach Zero sehr viel schlechtere Ergebnisse bringt als wenn man einen Wartecoup einlegt. Die Unterschiede sind verblüffend – vergleicht die oberen beiden Tabellenblöcke.
Dann habe ich mit Intermittenz-Filtern experimentiert.
Der erste war ein einfacher PMPM/MPMP-Filter, das heißt, immer wenn ein dieser beiden Ketten entstand (2 isolierte Einer) wurde fiktiv gespielt, bis wieder eine Chancenwiederholung kam.
Das brachte eine kleine Verbesserung (Tabelle untere Reihe links).
Als nächstes ging ich so vor wie weiter oben beschrieben: ich zählte "on the fly" die Einer und die Serien. Entgegen meiner gestern geäußerten Vermutung ist es NICHT vorteilhaft, auf Serientendenz zu spielen, sondern auf den AUSGLEICH. Immer, wenn die Einer einen Vorsprung von x haben (der Wert ist einstellbar), dann darf gesetzt werden.
Mit x=1 kam schon fast ein Nullsummenergebnis heraus, je größer ich x werden ließ, um so besser wurde das Ergebnis – bei geringeren Umsätzen, versteht sich! Ein Optimum ist der Wert x=4, damit war über 600 Partien eine positive Umsatzrendite von 0,91% zu erzielen (558 Stk). Zeroverluste inbegriffen!
Hier die 5 Tabellen:
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01.09.2006, 16:27
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@webpirat
Das ist tatsächlich verblüffend. Hast du es auch mit höheren X versucht? Oder ist x=4 ein ermitteltes Optimum?
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01.09.2006, 16:41
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@ Shutgun
Zitat:
Originally posted by Shotgun@01.09.2006 - 16:27
Hast du es auch mit höheren X versucht? Oder ist x=4 ein ermitteltes Optimum?
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Bei größerem x werden die Ergebnisse wieder etwas schlechter.
Vor allem kann dann nur noch selten gesetzt werden, wenn nur 100 Coups gespielt werden. Denn die Einer müssen den Serien ja erst ein ganzes Stück davoneilen, damit ein Satzsignal entsteht.
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01.09.2006, 17:05
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@webpirat
Hatte ich mir eigentlich schon gedacht, daß X=4 als optimal erkannt wurde. Es wird also, ähnlich Grilleau, eine Spannung abgewartet. Schade um die manchmal schönen Serien, die einem dabei entgehen. Aber kann wohl nicht alles haben.
Wie sähe es denn aus, wenn man nach dem erscheinen von z.B. Manque nicht einmal auf eine Wiederholung der EC setzt, sondern die erschienene TVP gleich ausläßt und mit 5 Stücken auf die restlichen TVP spielt?
Ist nur mal so eine Überlegung, denn dadurch käme ausschließlich die höhere Quote der TVP gegenüber den EC zum tragen.
Allerdings finde ich ein positives Ergebnis von 0,91% über Zero schon echt irre!!! 
Shotgun
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01.09.2006, 20:14
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Bonsoir Webpirat et Shotgun
Die Webpirat Regeln (PM/PM/MP/MP und der Ausgleich wenn Intermitenz x=+4 )
sind sehr gut angepasst !
So entweicht man die längeren Verlustserien !
Habe was probiert : wenn ich vorn bin und habe einen Treffer ,
spiele ich die TvP gleich mit DOPPELTER Stückgrösse !
So gelingt es schnell zu 40/50 Stücke zu kommen , und man kann abbrechen !
Salut à vous , amicalement 
Bernard (genel)
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01.09.2006, 20:22
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Hallo Bernard,
wenn sich tatsächlich ein Dauerergebnis von Plus über Zero ergibt, dann sind die Möglichkeiten in einem Bereich, über den ich gar nicht nachdenken mag.
Ich habe auch einige Versuche gemacht, z.B. habe ich mit 20 Massen statt auf 100 Coups gespielt. Damit meine ich, ich habe 120 Stücke Kapital vorgehalten. Ein Verlustsatz von -6 ist eine Masse verloren. Gewinne werden separat verbucht. Sind die 20 Massen weg, erfolgt Kassensturz. So bleibt man bei gutem Verlauf länger im Geschäft, der mögliche max. Verlust ist aber trotzdem genau definiert.
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01.09.2006, 20:47
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Hi Shotgun
Das bedeutet wohl das nach 20 Masse (6) Verluste die partie beendet ist .
Da kann man auch noch trotzdem im Plus sein ? Oder ? :helpsmile:
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01.09.2006, 20:54
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Zitat:
Originally posted by Shotgun@01.09.2006 - 20:22
... ich habe 120 Stücke Kapital vorgehalten. Ein Verlustsatz von -6 ist eine Masse verloren. Gewinne werden separat verbucht. Sind die 20 Massen weg, erfolgt Kassensturz. So bleibt man bei gutem Verlauf länger im Geschäft, der mögliche max. Verlust ist aber trotzdem genau definiert.
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Das hört sich interessant an.
Verstehe ich dich so richtig:
Du hast bei Spielbeginn 120 Stücke in der linken Hosentasche. Zum Setzen nimmst du die Jetons immer aus dieser Tasche. Wenn der Satz gewinnt, dann steckst du den Einsatz zurück, doch der Überschuss kommt in die rechte Tasche.
So spielst du, bis die linke Tasche leer ist, also 120 Stücke verloren wurden. Und guckst dann, was in der rechten Tasche drinnen ist.
Oder steckst du nach einem Treffer Einsatz+Gewinn in die rechteTasche?
Wie sind deine ersten Ergebnisse bei dieser Vorgehensweise?
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01.09.2006, 21:15
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@webpirat
Es kommt nur der Gewinn in die rechte Tasche. Ich kann also immer spielen, bis 20x6 Stücke perdu sind. Bei gutem Verlauf kommt einiges zusammen, bei einem schlechten Lauf gibt es aber auch nie einen Totalverlust (vermute ich), denn wenigstens einige 1-Stücke-Gewinne dürften selbst im schlimmsten Fall drinnen sein.
Ansonsten probiere ich noch herum, wie ich diese Vorgehensweise mit deinen Erkenntnissen kombinieren kann. Da habe ich noch nichts wirklich gängiges gefunden. Vor allem, wenn es zwar ein +4 für die Einzelcoups gibt, danach aber 4 mal eine 2er-Serie fällt und dann erst die wirklich prickelnden Serien kommen, während ich wieder auf den Ecart warte.
Das gefällt mir so noch nicht, aber wenn sich deine ersten Ergebnisse mit dem +0,91% bestätigen, ist alles andere eh Wurscht. Dann gilt es doch nur, möglichst viel Umsatz zu produzieren. 
Irgendwie fehlt mir aber doch noch der Glaube.
Shotgun
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01.09.2006, 21:21
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@Bernard
Ich habe bisher 6 Partien versucht. Allerdings alle mit einem immer etwas anderen Marsch.
4 mal bin ich im Plus geblieben, 2 mal im Minus. Plus überwiegt deutlich, aber der Vergleich ist unzulässig, da - wie gesagt - immer ein anderer Marsch gewählt wurde. Mal mit 1er-Filter nach webpirat, mal nach X=4 (siehe oben) etc.
Alles noch Erprobung. Es zeichnet sich aber ab, daß durch die gute Rückholkraft der degressiv bespielten TVP immer eine gute Chance auf ein Plusergebnis gegeben scheint.
Shotgun
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01.09.2006, 21:26
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Hi Shotgun
Glaube dann hast du ja nichts zu verlieren !
Meine erste Partien sehn nicht schlecht aus , die drei letzten ,
habe ich nach Webpirats Hinweisen gespielt , da wird viel weniger gesetzt !
Man muss eben weiter machen !!!
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Deine 120 Masse gefällt mir gut !
Habe noch eine Siebte Partie unternommen MIT der 120 Masse !
und habe sie herunter gespielt
32 Coups
-9
171 Umsatz
Es begrenzt die Ergebnisse ohne grosse Gefahr !
Vieleicht kann man in dieser Version wenn man Vorne steht ,
gleich das Stück erhöhen , wenn es der 120 Masse in die Nähe kommt ? 
Verlust -9 max Stand +28
Ciao
Bernard (genel)
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@ Webpirat
Hallo Webpirat,
zunächst Gratulation zu Deinen schnellen, ausführlichen Auswertungen. Lob muß sein - 
Du berichtest, dass der Wartecoup nach Zero vorteilhaft ist.
Frage: Wie wird das Spiel nach Zero und e i n e m ( 1) Wartecoup fortgeführt ???
a.) an dem Punkt, wo das Spiel durch Zero unterbrochen wurde, mit oder ohne
Wiederholung des Verlustcoups durch Zero ???
b.) durch Neubeginn des Spiels, Ermittlung M/P, 6 EC - 5 TVP - 4 TVP - etc. ???
Grüsse
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@ Webpirat
habe eine Idee zum Intermittenz-Filter !!!
statt des Intermittenz-Filters könnte man doch auch die Intermittenzen als Serien
spielen - oder ??? ,
Nach erscheinen von M/P - als 2 freistehende Einer - diesem Trend folgen bis zum
Abbruch. Hierdurch würden die Intermittenz- (Serien) voll genutzt und man müßte
nicht fiktiv weiterspielen bis zur Chanchenwiederhoung.
Warum nur die geliebten Serien spielen ??? es müßte doch auch mit den Intermittenzen funktionieren ???
Gruss
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Die Webpirat Regeln (PM/PM/MP/MP und der Ausgleich wenn Intermitenz x=+4 )
Soll das heißen das ich immer erst dann zum Einsatz komme wenn zb. PMPM oder MPMP
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02.09.2006, 10:01
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SAMMELANTWORT
Zitat:
Originally posted by Shotgun+01.09.2006 - 17:05-->| QUOTE (Shotgun @ 01.09.2006 - 17:05) | ... Wie sähe es denn aus, wenn man nach dem erscheinen von z.B. Manque nicht einmal auf eine Wiederholung der EC setzt, sondern die erschienene TVP gleich ausläßt und mit 5 Stücken auf die restlichen TVP spielt? ...
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Daran habe ich auch schon gedacht. Ich will sogar noch einen Schritt weiter gehen, aber dazu schreibe ich erst etwas, wenn ich einen Test gemacht habe.
Deshalb werde ich das Sheet mal dahingehend umprogrammieren.
Zitat:
Originally posted by Shotgun+-->| QUOTE (Shotgun) | Allerdings finde ich ein positives Ergebnis von 0,91% über Zero schon echt irre!!!
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Ich würde das nicht überbewerten, 600 Partien sind viel zu wenig, es werden ja nicht viele der 100 Coups gesetzt. Für das Ergebnis ist in erster Linie eine sehr gute Gewinnstrecke bei Wiesbaden online verantwortlich.
Zitat:
Originally posted by Heinzelmann
Frage: Wie wird das Spiel nach Zero und e i n e m (1) Wartecoup fortgeführt ???
a.) an dem Punkt, wo das Spiel durch Zero unterbrochen wurde, mit oder ohne
Wiederholung des Verlustcoups durch Zero ???
b.) durch Neubeginn des Spiels, Ermittlung M/P, 6 EC - 5 TVP - 4 TVP - etc. ???
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Bonsoir Shotgun , Webpirat und alle Mitstreiter
Merci Shotgun für deine Spielanregung .
Merci Webpirat für die fleissige Arbeit die du immer schenkst ! 
Meine kleine Realtests sind nicht von grosser Bedeutung ,
doch lassen sie eine kurze mögliche Stasse erkennen .
Vielleicht kann meine Zeugenablage weiterhelfen .
Warum ich meine Versuche weiter führe ?
Weil es Wert ist diese beide zu unterstützen !
Weil es mich interressiert und weil ich Zeit habe !
Weil ich Shotguns Strategie sehr gut finde !
Weil die Stopps PM/PM//MP/MP von Webpirat :
uns längere Intermitenz-Serien ersparen !
Weil die x=+4 Regel von Webpirat spielbare Satz-Signale anbahnt !
Die 120 Masse Regel von Shotgun ist eine hervoragende Idee ,
sie setzt ein klares Kapital und Sitzungslänge fest !
Hier meine zehn gespielten Partien 
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red;font-weight:normal'>61
|
border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;
mso-border-bottom-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-right-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;
background:yellow;padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:12.75pt'>
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red;font-weight:normal'>263
|
border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;
mso-border-bottom-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-right-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;
background:white;padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:12.75pt'>
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:normal'>645
|
border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;
mso-border-bottom-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-right-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;
background:white;padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:12.75pt'>
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:normal'>1323
|
border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;
mso-border-bottom-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-right-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;
padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:12.75pt'>
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:normal'>19,87
|
border-top:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-bottom-alt:
solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-right-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;background:
#CCFFFF;padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:12.75pt'>
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:normal'>3
|
border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;
mso-border-bottom-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-right-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;
background:white;padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:12.75pt'>
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:normal'>178
|
border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;
mso-border-bottom-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-right-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;
background:white;padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:12.75pt'>
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:normal'>436
|
border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;
mso-border-bottom-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-right-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;
background:yellow;padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:12.75pt'>
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red;font-weight:normal'>-102
|
border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;
mso-border-bottom-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-right-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;
background:yellow;padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:12.75pt'>
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red;font-weight:normal'>161
|
border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;
mso-border-bottom-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-right-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;
background:white;padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:12.75pt'>
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:normal'>925
|
border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;
mso-border-bottom-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-right-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;
background:white;padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:12.75pt'>
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:normal'>2248
|
border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;
mso-border-bottom-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-right-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;
padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:12.75pt'>
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:normal'>7,16
|
border-top:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-bottom-alt:
solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-right-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;background:
#CCFFFF;padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:12.75pt'>
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:normal'>4
|
border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;
mso-border-bottom-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-right-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;
background:white;padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:12.75pt'>
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:normal'>26
|
border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;
mso-border-bottom-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-right-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;
background:white;padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:12.75pt'>
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:normal'>462
|
border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;
mso-border-bottom-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-right-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;
background:yellow;padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:12.75pt'>
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red;font-weight:normal'>50
|
border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;
mso-border-bottom-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-right-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;
background:yellow;padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:12.75pt'>
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red;font-weight:normal'>211
|
border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;
mso-border-bottom-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-right-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;
background:white;padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:12.75pt'>
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:normal'>130
|
border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;
mso-border-bottom-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-right-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;
background:white;padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:12.75pt'>
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:normal'>2378
|
border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;
mso-border-bottom-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-right-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;
padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:12.75pt'>
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:normal'>8,87
|
border-top:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-bottom-alt:
solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-right-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;background:
#CCFFFF;padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:12.75pt'>
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:normal'>5
|
border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;
mso-border-bottom-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-right-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;
background:white;padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:12.75pt'>
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:normal'>38
|
border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;
mso-border-bottom-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-right-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;
background:white;padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:12.75pt'>
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:normal'>500
|
border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;
mso-border-bottom-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-right-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;
background:yellow;padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:12.75pt'>
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red;font-weight:normal'>0
|
border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;
mso-border-bottom-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-right-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;
background:yellow;padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:12.75pt'>
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red;font-weight:normal'>211
|
border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;
mso-border-bottom-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-right-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;
background:white;padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:12.75pt'>
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:normal'>206
|
border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;
mso-border-bottom-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-right-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;
background:white;padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:12.75pt'>
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:normal'>2584
|
border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;
mso-border-bottom-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-right-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;
padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:12.75pt'>
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:normal'>8,55
|
border-top:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-bottom-alt:
solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-right-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;background:
#CCFFFF;padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:12.75pt'>
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:normal'>6
|
border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;
mso-border-bottom-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-right-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;
background:white;padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:12.75pt'>
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:normal'>21
|
border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;
mso-border-bottom-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-right-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;
background:white;padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:12.75pt'>
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:normal'>521
|
border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;
mso-border-bottom-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-right-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;
background:yellow;padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:12.75pt'>
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red;font-weight:normal'>51
|
border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;
mso-border-bottom-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-right-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;
background:yellow;padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:12.75pt'>
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red;font-weight:normal'>267
|
border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;
mso-border-bottom-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-right-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;
background:white;padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:12.75pt'>
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:normal'>118
|
border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;
mso-border-bottom-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-right-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;
background:white;padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:12.75pt'>
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:normal'>2702
|
border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;
mso-border-bottom-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-right-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;
padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:12.75pt'>
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:normal'>9,88
|
;height:12.75pt'>
|
border-top:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-bottom-alt:
solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-right-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;background:
#CCFFFF;padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:12.75pt'>
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:normal'>7
|
|
border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;
mso-border-bottom-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-right-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;
background:white;padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:12.75pt'>
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:normal'>32
|
border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;
mso-border-bottom-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-right-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;
background:white;padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:12.75pt'>
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:normal'>553
|
border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;
mso-border-bottom-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-right-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;
background:yellow;padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:12.75pt'>
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red;font-weight:normal'>-9
|
border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;
mso-border-bottom-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-right-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;
background:yellow;padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:12.75pt'>
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red;font-weight:normal'>253
|
border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;
mso-border-bottom-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-right-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;
background:white;padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:12.75pt'>
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:normal'>171
|
border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;
mso-border-bottom-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-right-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;
background:white;padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:12.75pt'>
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:normal'>2873
|
border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;
mso-border-bottom-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-right-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;
padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:12.75pt'>
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:normal'>8,8
|
border-top:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-bottom-alt:
solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-right-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;background:
#CCFFFF;padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:12.75pt'>
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:normal'>8
|
border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;
mso-border-bottom-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-right-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;
background:white;padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:12.75pt'>
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:normal'>42
|
border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;
mso-border-bottom-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-right-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;
background:white;padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:12.75pt'>
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:normal'>595
|
border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;
mso-border-bottom-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-right-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;
background:yellow;padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:12.75pt'>
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red;font-weight:normal'>69
|
border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;
mso-border-bottom-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-right-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;
background:yellow;padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:12.75pt'>
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red;font-weight:normal'>322
|
border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;
mso-border-bottom-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-right-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;
background:white;padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:12.75pt'>
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:normal'>209
|
border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;
mso-border-bottom-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-right-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;
background:white;padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:12.75pt'>
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:normal'>3082
|
border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;
mso-border-bottom-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-right-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;
padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:12.75pt'>
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:normal'>10,44
|
border-top:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-bottom-alt:
solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-right-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;background:
#CCFFFF;padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:12.75pt'>
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:normal'>9
|
border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;
mso-border-bottom-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-right-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;
background:white;padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:12.75pt'>
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:normal'>31
|
border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;
mso-border-bottom-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-right-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;
background:white;padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:12.75pt'>
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:normal'>626
|
border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;
mso-border-bottom-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-right-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;
background:yellow;padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:12.75pt'>
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red;font-weight:normal'>-22
|
border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;
mso-border-bottom-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-right-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;
background:yellow;padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:12.75pt'>
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red;font-weight:normal'>300
|
border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;
mso-border-bottom-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-right-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;
background:white;padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:12.75pt'>
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:normal'>149
|
border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;
mso-border-bottom-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-right-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;
background:white;padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:12.75pt'>
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:normal'>3231
|
border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;
mso-border-bottom-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-right-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;
padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:12.75pt'>
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:normal'>9,28
|
border-top:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-bottom-alt:
solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-right-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;background:
#CCFFFF;padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:12.75pt'>
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:normal'>10
|
border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;
mso-border-bottom-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-right-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;
background:white;padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:12.75pt'>
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:normal'>38
|
border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;
mso-border-bottom-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-right-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;
background:white;padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:12.75pt'>
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:normal'>664
|
border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;
mso-border-bottom-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-right-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;
background:yellow;padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:12.75pt'>
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red;font-weight:normal'>25
|
border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;
mso-border-bottom-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-right-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;
background:yellow;padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:12.75pt'>
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red;font-weight:normal'>325
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Man kann gut sehn wie sich das Spiel verhält ! 
Bis jetzt erstaunlich gut .
Ich denke auch das es leicht im Landcasino auszuführen ist !
Man kann sicher zwei oder drei Tische verfolgen ,
und so viele Stazsignale finden .
Nach meiner Kanada Reise bin ich gerne wieder bei euch !
Habe dort auch ein bisschen hier reingeklotzt !
Bonne soirée à tous ...amicalement
Bernard (genel)
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15.09.2006, 19:40
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Hallo Bernard,
deine Bilanz sieht besser aus als meine, denn ich spiele dieses Spielchen auch noch gelegentlich. Ich bin noch knapp im Plus, habe aber das Gefühl, daß es nicht mehr lange gut geht. Wenn ich 20 Massen komplett verloren habe, ziehe ich die Notbremse.
Vor allem versuche ich immer noch, einen Intermittenz-Filter zu finden und einzubauen.
Shotgun
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16.09.2006, 12:44
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Hallo Shotgun
Meine neue 4 gespielten Partien sehn nicht mehr so gut aus !
Bin aber nur 100 zurrückgefallen , aber es war schwierig .
Ein Problem das mir jetzt erst entgegengekommen ist :
gestern Abend habe ich DREI-MAL eine Partie versucht !
Auf diesen drei partien kahm ich nicht zum Spiel ?
denn nie habe ich den x=+4 Ecart gefunden !
Trotz ich paar mal ausgelogen habe und wieder eingetippt habe !
Im Landcasino muss man sicher mehrere Tische mitschreiben ?
Der Intermitenz-Filter ist doch ein Problem !
Mit der 120 Masse bleibt das Spiel gut in einem annehmbaren Ramen .
Im nägsten Thread meine Tabelle ...verdammt schwer einzustellen !
TURN !!!!
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16.09.2006, 15:08
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Hier meine Tabelle von den 10 letzten Partien ,
die nicht mehr so gut aussehn ! Schade ...
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Ohne den Intermitenz-Filter und MIT DER 120 Masse ,
scheint es mir am besten zu gehn und auch ungefährlich .
In paar Tage mache ich noch weiter
Salut à vous ....amicalement
Bernard (genel)
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Hi, und sorry das ich blöde Fragen stelle 
Aber habe noch Probleme die Spielerklärungen richtig zu verstehen.
Zitat:
Nehmen wir zum Verständnis ein Spiel nur auf Manque; das Spiel auf Passe verläuft natürlich
analog.
Fällt Manque, setzen wir die EC mit 6 Stücken nach. Bei Gewinn wird nun auf die 5 TVP gesetzt,
die nicht erschienen sind. Es wird also die gefallene TVP ausgelassen. Bei wiederum einem Gewinn
wird auf nur noch 4 TVP gesetzt. Bei optimalem Verlauf erfolgt ein Abschlußsatz mit einem Stück
auf eine (die letzte verbliebene) TVP.
Einsatz TVP Gew. Verl. kum.
6 6 6 -6 6
5 5 7 +1 13
4 4 8 +9 21
3 3 9 +18 30
2 2 10 +28 40
1 1 11 +39 51
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1. 1 Stk auf jedes TVP-Feld (also 6) im Manquebereich
2. bei Gewinn 1 Stk auf alle nichterschienenen (5) TVPs im Manquebereich
3. usw...
meine Frage: wird hier praktisch auf das wiederholte Erscheinen von Manque gesetzt?
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